Getting a Tony tuned Talon .22 – have some questions
This is my first Talon so I ‘m going to need a little help making the right decisions and understanding things better.
I spoke briefly with Tony today because he was very busy. I explained to him that I wanted a very quiet gun shooting around 40fpe w/21gr Kodiaks and an 18″ barrel. He said no problem. We agred that that I would by the gun from him and he ‘d make a full shroud for it, do his “full tune”, and an O-ring mod for the valve.
I ‘m assuming I ‘d get the regular Talon that comes with the 18″ barrel and add a shroud to it. My question is, is the shroud (for $200) just a 6″ add-on from the frame to the end of the barrel or does it go inside the frame at all? Is the factory 18″ (Lothar Waltham I presume) barrel, the same as the 18″ one that Tony sells on his web site? I figured I get the 18″ barrel from the getgo that comes with the regular (non-SS) Talon so I won’t have to pay for a longer barrel later.
Another question What is the difference between a stock Talon SS and a regular Talon besides the extra 6″ that is not shrouded on the non-SS?
Another thing we did not discuss was the spring hammer. Will Tony install a spring hammer to get some extra power, or is it all done with the valve work (valve mods, port/polish, etc.) from the ‘full tune’?
I guess I need to call back when he ‘s not too busy but he said I ‘d have to wait 10-12 weeks before I get the gun because he all of a sudden got a lot of work all at once, so I ‘m guessing he ‘ll be busy for a while.
Are there any other mods I should be looking into that make the gun more accurate or better to shoot? What about the top hat clearance/adjustment? Will Tony adjust that for the power I want?
What exactly does the ventilated bushing do, and what is the 1-piece breech I read about on his web site? Are there any issues with the way the Talon loads the pellet? Should I be getting mods for easier loading or is that all part of his ‘full tune’? I do have a price cap, so I ‘m not looking to spend tons of $ on mods that may not make a big difference or not be helpful with accuracy or how quiet the gun shoots. As it is this “Tony Talon” will cost me about $1 grand.
I guess my main question is, are the shroud, tune, and O ring mod, all I need to have a really good shooting 40fpe Talon that is quiet and accurate with a decent amount of shots? Should I be considering a Concor for about $200 bucks more with lots more power? but can they get as quiet as a Talon? I wouldn’t do a power tune on the Condor for what I need. I think the factory power of a Condor would be plenty for groundhogs and racoons out to 60+yds, but a “silent” shooting gun is very important to me. Tony said the Talon would be more quiet so that ‘s what I based my decision on.
We discussed a velocity of ~925fps with 21gr Kodias and it was explained to me that after 30-35 shots it would shoot around 850fps which is pretty much the range I was looking for. How does that sound to everyone? I ‘d prefer shooting a string of 10-15 shots in the 900fps range, but Tony explained to me that AF guns don’t shoot like other PCP’s and that they go down a couple of fps after every shot. Can the Talon tank & valve be modified to shoot a dozen shots of consistent velocity or will I have to adjust the POA every 10 shots or so? Sorry for all the questions. I ‘ve read a bunch of posts here and my brain is in overload mode..
Thanks in advance for any comments or advice you could give!
Harry
PS. e-mails are welcomed too. vtecharry@yahoo.com
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The only one I can answer is difference between talon and talon SS. The frame on the standard talon frame is 17.5 inches long, and the talon SS frame is 22 inches long. Which is the same as the condor.